More news about 5th ed. sounds like it will come with a new box set that will feature Marines vs Orks. Welcome back 2nd ed starter. From rumblings on the net it will be Rynn's world (Crimson fists vs Orks) for the scenario. Initial indications are that the Marines will get a tactical squad, commander, terminator squad and dreadnought. The Orks will get 20 boys, commander, 20 gretchin and deff kopters. Sounds like a great deal of models for a very reasonable price (think battle for skull pass). I can't wait to see it!