It took a while to actually get a chance to get a real shot
of the whole army together. Overall the army took me about 16 days total to
paint (full days…like 8-10 hour days). When you consider that my Dark Eldar
took a full year of work or my Nids were about two I think that is a pretty
epic feat lol. Overall I am very proud of this army to the point where I would
put it on the same mark as my DE. The reason I say that is because of how
little time it took to paint because of the techniques and limited palette I
chose to work with. Just goes to show that because something is speed painted
doesn’t mean it has to look bad lol.
As far as playing the army I am having a lot of fun with it.
Sadly that can’t really be said for my opponents. The closest game was against
my friend Jon and I still won that by a mark of 12-5 for victory points. The funny thing is I created this list in 5th ed with the sole purpose of being a "softer" list that is fun to play against. Little did I know certain units would get such massive bumps in power like Night Scythes and Warriors lol. The
things I like the most about this army are having a balanced list with some
sneaky tricks (two things which are trademarks of my lists it seems lol). Here
is the list:
HQ
Overlord - warscythe, mindshackle scarabs, tesseract
labyrinth, rez orb
Royal Court
Lord - warscythe, mindshackle scarabs, rez orb
Destruction Cryptek - eldritch lance, solar pulse
Despair Cryptek - veil of darkness
Royal Court
Lord - warscythe, mindshackle scarabs, rez orb
Destruction Cryptek - eldritch lance, solar pulse
Despair Cryptek - veil of darkness
Elites
Triarch Stalker - heat ray
Troops
Warriors (20) - (Overlord and Despair Cryptek here)
Warriors (5) - ghost ark, (Destruction Cryptek here)
Immortals (10) - tesla carbines, night scythe, (Lord here)
Warriors (5) - ghost ark, (Destruction Cryptek here)
Immortals (10) - tesla carbines, night scythe, (Lord here)
Fast Attack
Tomb Blades (3) - particle beamers
Scarabs (7)
Scarabs (7)
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge - tesla destructor, tesla cannon
Annihilation Barge - tesla destructor, tesla cannon
Tomb Spiders (3)
Annihilation Barge - tesla destructor, tesla cannon
Tomb Spiders (3)
1750pts
The “allstars” of this list are the Solar Pulse and that 20
man warrior squad. The reason I love the solar pulse as much as I do is because
being able to control night fight against all opponents can be potentially game
winning. The durability it adds to all your vehicles since they
are skimmers cant be understated. Basically, if you move all your AV 13 vehicles will have a minimum of a 4+ cover save. You get in decent cover from 24”+ it can get
down 2+. Very rarely do I surrender “first blood” even when going second
because of the pulse. Another nice benefit is that half the time the first two
turns you have night fight on, which is amazing.
The second key piece to this list is that 20 man Warrior
squad. When you combine the size, the 4+ resurrection protocol, their standard
4+ save and the nearby ghost ark you have a squad that can take anything you
throw at it and still remain close to max strength. How I use this unit is to
draw my opponents units towards my lines while I get some shots off at tanks,
softening up their troops, etc. and RIGHT before he is able to assault I veil
to the other side of the board normally into his un-protected backfield or onto
an objective. I am constantly blown away at how well this works.
The runner up prize oddly goes to the Stalker. The reason
being is 100% based on twin linking everything in your army when firing at his
target squad. I cant get over how well this works combined with the style of
shooting for this army (volume of fire). Just awesome lol.
I am hoping to be doing a tournament on Dec 1st
with these guys (at 1500pts so I drop the Scarabs and Spiders) so I will
obviously be doing up a tournament recap. I am also hoping to get in some
battle reports too.
6 comments:
Your army isnt THAT bad... Our game would have turned out a lot closer had my dark lances had any effect throughout the first two turns. Fire 15 lance weapons and force a single coversave? Really?
Considering that single wych won the combat against your warriors....
The lynchpin of your list at 1500 is that blob squad. Somebody who can move quickly or pull off a long charge can quickly shut that threat down. The new chaos book has tonnes of options, nids can move quick enough as well...
Sure is a pretty army though....
I am not necessarily saying that the army is that bad. All I am saying is that all my games to date havent really been close. In my last game against Matt he got both of his blob squads in on my main Warrior squad and they lived through the entire game with 19 models left.
You are also right about our game. If one or two of the Annihilation barges were destroyed then it would of been different. And your wyches winning out was a complete fluke and you know it lol. As you know, not much you can do when you roll like crap :P
One thing I havent played against is fast, hard hitting CC squads, like Thunderwolves or spawn. I am interested to see how well the army does against units like that. I am doubly interested to see how the army does against the new Chaos Book since I havent seen it being played yet.
Nothing wrong with the army list. I think it would be nice to play against as it is quite varied - the only duplication is 2 annihilation barges and two warrior units (and even those warrior units have different roles).
I think your wins are more down to your good generalship from using the army for so long, and the fact that it's not one of the the typical necron builds (flyer spam, wraith spam, scarab/sypder spam). If you played all your 6th edition opponents again I think the games would be closer because they would be more aware of what you list does and how tough the big warrior unit is. The warrior unit is a nice bait. By the time an opponent realises how tough it is they have already committed resources to kill it, and already on the road to losing the game because coming with range of that unit without some of the support elements gone is near suicide.
Has any of your opponents had a mobile force which tried to stay 30" (6" move + 24" range) away from all or the majority of your army for a turn or two ? It could give them the time to take out some of the support elements (barges, ark).
Rathstar
@ Rathstar: There are definitely many good counters to this army. As I mentioned I tried to design it to be balanced and hopefully fun to play against (mostly luck dictating friends not having fun against it lol).
Things like a decent round of shooting by a Dark Eldar army with Dark Lances (aka NOT by my friend Jon) and that is all the tanks done. Once you remove the Tesla Destructors this army looses a huge amount of bite.
The other big one are armies that have fast, heavy hitting close combat squads. I see flying Demon Princes (or Demons in general), Thunder Wolves, Spawn, etc. being very difficult for this army to deal with.
The funny thing is I see the single hardest match up for me is my main army, and thats Nids. You combine assault elements that can hit you from reserve like Ymgarls and a whole slew of big critters with FNP and decent saves and there isnt a whole lot one can do in my mind. Luckily for me not many people other then myself play Tyranids in these parts and those that do are really new to the army.
I actually have only had 5 games with this army, so I dont really have a lot of experience. My games have come against Black Templar twice (2 different styles of lists), Dark Eldar, Salamanders and a 1K Sons list. My friends Black Templars can definitely feel the age of the codex and they are very ill equipped to deal with my army. The Salamanders made a couple key mistakes which decided the game early. My friend Jon's Dark Eldar succumbed to him rolling like dog shit in the first turn meaning he didnt scratch the paint on the Annihilation Barges and in turn lost all his transports (that game if re-played will definitely be much closer) and the game against my friend Scotts 1k Sons saw some amazing bad luck against Mindshackle Scarabs in CC (killed a full oblit squad in one round and took out his general lol). So, I am sure once I get more games in things will really even out as virtually any rematch of those games will be much closer or have huge potential to go the other way. :)
I am REALLY hoping to do a tournament on the 1st of December (as I mentioned) just so I can get in some games against some more varied opponents.
just a note, when I said the army isn't "THAT bad" - I meant to play against. You've put together a solid army (again)
What makes your army great is that it seems to encapsulate everything that 6th edition is about. You have a strong hybrid of mechanized & foot elements, the foot elements you do utilize are VERY resilient, you have fast elements (the scythe, bikes & veil)and of course make use of the new unit type without abusing it.
All said it is a very well balanced army that is able to maximise its strengths & doesn't try too hard to cover its weaknesses - you avoid combat by presenting AV13 walkers, a ninja-teleporting squad & having the scariest character defence in the game.
I think a traditional guard army may give you difficulty though - The good ol' manticore seems like it could cause you some concerns as S10 ordinance barrage doesn't care too much about your quantum sheilding and makes a mockery of the warrior squads 4+ save.
~Jon
Looking really good, mate! I noticed a lot of Necron armies using the rust colors lately. It's a good change from pure metal.
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